BSP Threads are used for most Oxygen, Acetylene and Propane equipment.
Fuel Gases, Acetylene, Propane, Polypropylene etc will have Left Hand Threads because this stops Fuel Gas and Non Fuel Gas equipment from being mixed up, which is potentially VERY dangerous.
Left Hand Threads will have small cuts machined into the Nut to indicate they are Left hand.
Non Fuel Gases Oxygen, Argon, Argon/Co2 Mix etc, will have Right Hand Threads and so no cut on the Nut.
The size of BSP Threads causes a lot of confusion because, for example, a 3/8″BSP Thread is over 1/2″ in diameter!
BSP stands for “British Standard Pipe” and is a very old thread.
In the example of 3/8″BSP, 3/8″ is the diameter of the BORE of the pipe NOT the outside diameter of the thread.
If the BORE of the pipe is 3/8″ diameter, clearly the outside diameter of the pipe has to be greater and it’s this outside pipe diameter that a thread would be cut into. So the Thread diameter has to be greater than the 3/8″ BORE diameter of the pipe!
Gas equipment typically uses 4 different BSP Threads, the following is the basic specifications of these threads.
|1/8″||0.383″ (9.73mm)||28 TPI|
|1/4″||0.518″ (13.16mm)||19 TPI|
|3/8″||0.656″ (16.66mm)||19 TPI|
|5/8″||0.902″ (22.91mm)||14 TPI|
1/8″BSP is commonly used for the outlet thread on small Regulators, the type used for throwaway cylinders for example.
1/4″BSP is typically used on the Torch end of Oxygen, Acetylene & Propane Hoses where small torches, including Lightweight and Model ‘O’, are used.
3/8″BSP is typically used for Regulator Outlets, Flash Arrestor Inlet + Outlet and the Torch end of Hoses where larger Torches, including Heavy Duty and Cutting Torches, are used.
5/8″BSP is typically used for Gas Cylinder Outlet and therefore Regulator Inlet.
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In the gases used above you did not mention butane. I have a propane bottle for my gas forge with standard fittings. I wanted a brazing torch which i got on ebay,(eeek). The torch that i bought was being sold for butane and identical looking torch’s were also available for propane. The butane torch thread did not match my propane bottle. still lefthanded but wrong thread. Is that because it is from ebay and imported or because butane uses a different thread size?
I regret I’m not overly familiar with Butane equipment (beyond the disposable bottle equipment). I would expect Torches to be much the same as, apart from flame temperature, Propane and Butane are similar in that their both Liquefied gasses.
The issue may well be that you’ve bought it on eBay. A LOT of eBay gas equipment is from suppliers who produce for the American market. American Threads are typically UNF type (mostly 9/16″ UNF from what I remember), here in the UK, standard threads on gas equipment are BSP.
If the issue is with the Nut on the end of your Torch Hose, you may be able to change it. You will need to know the Hose Bore size in mm. Have a look at our Nut & Tail sets.
Always best to check threads with sellers before buying gas equipment off eBay.
Hope I’ve helped
So lucky to have found your thread.
Does everyone use the BSP, as a Standard?
Or the Americans use a different Thread.
Are all Oxygen tank/Cylinder have one thread the 5/8″BSP as a standard?
if so, all gauges/regulators have the same and will be compatible.
BSP threads are UK standard, I’ve yet to come across a UK supplier of Gas or Gas Equipment using anything else.
Other Countries have they’re own threads and are not compatible.
The Americans, for example, typically use a 9/16″ Thread for torches, hoses etc.
I hope that helps.
Thanks Graham, this cleared up some confusion about whether a new argon regulator was the right size. These BSP size designations are a pain to deal with if ypu’re not used to them!
Hi Simon, thanks for the comment. BSP threads are a constant source of confusion 🙂 I wrote the article after I had a customer get quite aggressive on the phone. I told him his thread was 3/8″BSP, but he INSISTED it was 5/8″ because he had measured it. It took a while to explain, he then thought it was a stupid way to measure a thread, like it was my fault! 🙂
Thanks graham for the timing info. More Grace
You’re welcome, glad you found the info useful.
Excellent info,Graham, helps judge size immediately. Thank you for your informative blogs.
Thank you for your comment, much appreciated, and you’re very welcome, I’m glad you found the information useful.